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Author Topic: Tightness of Used Market  (Read 2358 times)

minerva

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Tightness of Used Market
« on: November 20, 2010, 09:08:14 PM »
Is it just my perception, or has the used market actually tightened-up quite a bit lately?  Normally, 5 years (25% of the way) into a game, the used market has regularly more on it.  Looking at the global statistics and you'll see practically nothing is about to come onto it either.  Is this due to a lack of big airline bks (due perhaps to the reasonable fuel prices thus far)?  Or am I just having bad luck/timing in my log-in times? 

Offline JumboShrimp

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2010, 11:42:29 PM »
Is it just my perception, or has the used market actually tightened-up quite a bit lately?  Normally, 5 years (25% of the way) into a game, the used market has regularly more on it.  Looking at the global statistics and you'll see practically nothing is about to come onto it either.  Is this due to a lack of big airline bks (due perhaps to the reasonable fuel prices thus far)?  Or am I just having bad luck/timing in my log-in times? 

No, not a bad timing on your part.  There is nothing on the used market.   At this stage of the game, the source of aircraft for the used market is airlines that have gone out of business.

But this game world has so far been The Beginners World with cheap fuel prices, low wages.  There has not been a single mid to large airline that has gone out of business.  Not even too many small airlines went out of business.

Offline Andriy

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2010, 09:20:38 AM »
there is just too much money in the game now. With fuel prices in the upper 300-s / lower 400-s everyone is making huge profits - thus opening new bases and buying every available plane on the market.
There will be much more planes on the used market once the fuel hits 600+

Offline Maarten Otto

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2010, 02:02:44 PM »
I just dumped a F100 with D check due in 3 days... will return to the leasing Co.

Jps

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2010, 03:50:14 PM »
Now it's filled with planes... Sami probably has something to do with it  ::)

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2010, 03:51:50 PM »
Found some decent planes from the desert.... A bit of polish and they're good to go.

Offline Bored

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2010, 04:42:33 PM »
LOL, could we make personal visits to that desert please?

Offline Blur CEO

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2010, 07:53:22 PM »
+1 i have a shopping list
oh and could we also get them at a discounted rate since were having to walk around looking fro them.

Mascalzone

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2010, 02:39:21 AM »
LOL, could we make personal visits to that desert please?

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2010, 03:41:55 AM »
i almost put a picture up here like that.lol

Offline raptorva

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2010, 04:34:31 AM »
I spy some DC-10's and MD's, give me those any day (real world, not AWS world)

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2010, 05:42:57 AM »
I think the whole northwest fleet is there.

LOT767

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2010, 06:17:31 AM »
I CALL DIBBS ON THE 757'S! I don't get it I keep pressing F5 and its the same planes everytime.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2010, 06:20:08 AM by LOT767 »

Offline Bored

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2010, 04:07:01 PM »
Someone should make more frequent visits to that boneyard and bring those aircrafts back to market :)

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2010, 05:25:02 PM »
Please see the Airwaysim Demotivators.

Ansettaddict123

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2010, 01:07:51 AM »
To the OP;
I dont think its your perception at all; its a very tight market as is and is holding many of us back in terms of expansion  >:(
I remember I came into ATB lateish, about 2004 (after a 2002 start), and the used market was flooded with aircraft. If only fuel would start going up, I never thought I would say that!  :laugh:

Offline JumboShrimp

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2010, 05:04:15 AM »
To the OP;
I dont think its your perception at all; its a very tight market as is and is holding many of us back in terms of expansion  >:(
I remember I came into ATB lateish, about 2004 (after a 2002 start), and the used market was flooded with aircraft.

I joined ATB also in 2004, but ATB had a 1998 start - unlike MT3 2002 start.  MT3 is 4 years shorter.  2004 in ATB was the 6th year, and we are still only in 5th year in MT3, so we will see....

If only fuel would start going up, I never thought I would say that!  :laugh:

I could not agree more.

I think MT3 is a new experiment.  It is called BarneySim:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsKO_r76kfQ&feature=related

Offline Andriy

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2010, 06:59:45 AM »
well... fuel is just 550 and there seems to be enough planes on the used market already

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2010, 01:10:03 PM »
You all gotta remember also that it's a simulation of market forces.

There are certain number of aircraft available in the world, and older being scrapped and new being built. If the demand is high and all planes are sold, then they are. New planes cannot really appear out of nowhere (but seems that brokers did find some in good-enough condition from the scrapyard this time :P). Again when times are bad lots of planes become available and at cheaper prices..

Offline JumboShrimp

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Re: Tightness of Used Market
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2010, 07:20:00 PM »
well... fuel is just 550 and there seems to be enough planes on the used market already

When we see news on the dashboard of airlines with 50, 100, 150 planes going bankrupt once every game month or every other game month, there will be plenty of aircraft on the market.  But as I said earlier, the initial 5 years of MT3 were so easy that not a single larger airline went under yet...

 

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