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Offline Sami

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Missing aircraft models from database
« on: October 23, 2010, 07:43:07 AM »
Revisit to this subject ..

Please list any missing aircraft models from AWS database to this page, I'm currently doing a data update. (Business jets, and other aircraft regarded as "general aviation" are not accepted)

http://www.airwaysim.com/Information/Aircraft/


Here's what I've come up with so far:

+ Lockheed Constellation
+ DH Comet
+ Handley Page Hermes
+ Cessna 400 series
+ Avro York
+ Avro Lancastrain
+ Avro Tudor
+ Ju52
+ Lockheed 18


Added:
+ Pilatus PC-12
+ Xian MA600
+ Antonov An-158
+ Antonov An-10



Offline raptorva

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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2010, 08:02:41 AM »
Well the Breda-Zappata_BZ.308 is not in the database however only one was built so there's not really any information available on it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breda-Zappata_BZ.308

For another rare airliner, the Bristol Brabazon is also not featured though it might make an interesting airliner for some airlines to use...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Brabazon


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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2010, 08:59:24 AM »
Both:  1 built ... so not significant enough to be included (nor any proper data available I would guess?)

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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2010, 09:07:11 AM »
Why on earth the Cessna 400?  You can't even operate a Caravan at a profit.

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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2010, 09:09:27 AM »
well I expect there would be more data on the Brabazon than the Breda but yes, only 1 of each was built as in the real world they were replaced by turboprops and turbojets

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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2010, 02:30:04 PM »
I can give you some info to the Cessna 414. I own a pilot's manual.

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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2010, 03:11:41 PM »
We're gonna need some hardcore subsidising to operate the Cessna.
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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2010, 03:22:59 PM »
We're gonna need some hardcore subsidising to operate the Cessna.

Just much cheaper maintenance costs. Having the AvGas fuel price equivalent to the Jet A-1 is already a big leap forward.

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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2010, 03:54:10 PM »
In the database, Comac is still listed as ACAC (for the ARJ21),

should add: Comac C919 for the modern times scenarios. also the Irkut MS-21-200 and -300

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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2010, 04:02:10 PM »
Avro Canada C102 Jetliner - Only one was built, but the plane was promising and only went under because the company spent too much money on some military plane..... I'm sure interest would exist in AWS  ;)

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Talentz

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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2010, 02:14:10 AM »
Didn't I already do the Comet...?


Any thing in I need to do or is everything covered by someone?





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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2010, 03:00:29 AM »
Another I just remembered is the Fokker F.VII though I'm not sure if it would be implemented as we've never had an inter-war period scenario.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_F.VII

Hugamuga

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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2010, 08:35:50 AM »
The Ilyushin Il-96-300M and 400M which are western versions with 2 crew cockpit, and Pratt & Whitney engines

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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2010, 08:48:08 AM »
Sukhoi Su-80 : 30 pax

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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2010, 09:17:09 AM »
Just much cheaper maintenance costs. Having the AvGas fuel price equivalent to the Jet A-1 is already a big leap forward.
With cheaper maintenance you're not gonna survive. You need reduced overhead cost in staffing. If I have 10 Cessna's... why on earth do I need more staff then seats in my plane?

The number of staff requiried for the operation of an airline should NOT be based on the number of aircraft but on the number of SEATS one is able to sell.

Another solution is indeed to subsidize it... or to allow people who operate aircrafts till 40 seats to ask 150 to 200% of the RRP. Of course the game engine will need to support this.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2010, 09:19:43 AM by Maarten Otto »

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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2010, 07:18:55 PM »
What about the Lockheed L-100? http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/stats.main?id=270

It was used commercially, and it would be interesting to see if it could be a commercial success in the game world.

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Offline ArcherII

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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2010, 07:48:41 PM »
With cheaper maintenance you're not gonna survive. You need reduced overhead cost in staffing. If I have 10 Cessna's... why on earth do I need more staff then seats in my plane?

The number of staff requiried for the operation of an airline should NOT be based on the number of aircraft but on the number of SEATS one is able to sell.

Another solution is indeed to subsidize it... or to allow people who operate aircrafts till 40 seats to ask 150 to 200% of the RRP. Of course the game engine will need to support this.

You are right in that aspect, though I was in the asumption that staffing costs for small commuters was being adressed.

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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2010, 09:24:08 PM »
How about the Sukhoi Superjet?

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Re: Missing aircraft models from database
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2010, 10:58:00 PM »
How about the Sukhoi Superjet?

It's in the game my friend. Both capacity variants.
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