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Author Topic: Xian MA60 what is up with that  (Read 4563 times)

Offline PiaDijkstra

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Xian MA60 what is up with that
« on: October 11, 2010, 02:41:02 PM »
How comes the Xian MA60 is so popular in MT3? I see many orders but I not see the benifits (yet) could someone that has a fleet of them show some light on this? Compared to Fokker 50 you need a crew member extra and also fuel is +20%. Is it making good profits?

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Offline swiftus27

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Re: Xian MA60 what is up with that
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2010, 02:42:26 PM »
No, but they may just be cheap to buy.

TPs are very popular on all routes under 300nm. 

Offline PiaDijkstra

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Re: Xian MA60 what is up with that
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2010, 02:51:40 PM »
Gee when you compare it to ATR72 it is nowhere (fuel burn, maintenance and even turn around time is better unless the 7 extra PAX!) but indeed leasing saves you 100.000 per month though. That might do nice work for you!

Offline ZombieSlayer

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Re: Xian MA60 what is up with that
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2010, 06:36:17 PM »
Yes, price has a lot to do with it, I think. I strongly considered them, but decided that the 5 extra pax over the prop I went with was actually a deterrent as I expect to be using my props on some competitive routes and having the larger plane, even if just marginally larger, would make me less competitive in the market. My choice, the AN-140, carries 52 pax, and with the Motor-Sich power burns 680kg/hour of gas. At a lease of $126k a month, it is HALF the price of the similarly sized Dash 8-300 and ATR-42-500. Fuel would have to hit $1700/1000kgs for the cost savings to be negated. The AN-140 is available with PW power, but comes with price tag $5 million higher. Fuel would have to climb to nearly $1,200/1000kg to make the extra money worth it. MX costs are a bit higher than the ATR or Dash (by about $500 for an A, $1000 for a B, $50k for a C, and $300k for a D) but in the end, the AN-140 comes out cheaper than the rest to the tune of about $10,000,000 over the course of an 8 year lease, based on average fuel prices of $500/1000kg.
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DenisG

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Re: Xian MA60 what is up with that
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2010, 06:59:21 PM »
Jipp, I would additionally point that a/c price and value tend to differ pretty strongly and this early in the game, many players tend to neglect this important financial aspect. In consequence, those a/c can make a lot of sense.

Denis

Hugamuga

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Re: Xian MA60 what is up with that
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2010, 11:02:55 PM »
i use to operate a lot of xians and i have found them very profitable to operate, and when considering they are so cheap, they are an excellent deal

Offline Frogiton

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Re: Xian MA60 what is up with that
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2010, 12:25:34 AM »
There's always some oddball plane topping the order list.
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Offline PiaDijkstra

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Re: Xian MA60 what is up with that
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2010, 07:07:38 AM »
I am very interested to see what maintenance will be doing when the planes go over 5 years of age though but intersting choice for sure!

Ansettaddict123

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Re: Xian MA60 what is up with that
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2010, 10:23:02 AM »
In ATB i operate a fleet of 50.
great little aircraft, very profitable and best of all; CHEAP!!!!

mb1994

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Re: Xian MA60 what is up with that
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2010, 10:48:29 AM »
as for maintenance

at 10 years Cs cost 600,000
at 15 years Cs cost 900,000

and that is even a bit less then the ATR 42-600

figures from ATB

L1011fan

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Re: Xian MA60 what is up with that
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2010, 10:01:23 PM »
I have one and I love it, but haven't been able to get any more.

ksliu9

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Re: Xian MA60 what is up with that
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2010, 02:20:23 AM »
I think the An-140 is better than Xian!  The only thing that Xian is better, is just the 5 more pax capacity. But in terms of turn around time, leasing price, and especially RANGE!!! (though sometimes you will not use a 50x pax a/c to fly 1000nm, 1000nm means you can use it in overnight flight route!)

For the leasing price, An-140 is unbeatable! The profit of my An-140 is almost the same as my ATR-72, but the leasing price is just half!

 

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