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Author Topic: Destructive behaviour ???  (Read 1469 times)

filipebravo

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Destructive behaviour ???
« on: September 23, 2010, 11:26:57 PM »
I have a question for you my fellows! Please take a look at the picture.

Why should one want to break the 200% supply rule and fly a 179 seater, 1400 miles, to carry an average of 70pax/day (ideally)? Is this really worth it?? Beacause I really doubt it... And yes, I am the owner of that CRJ2. And I can tell you I don't bother sharing, but, why this? I could understand it if it was a 300nm distance, it would sound like a timefiller, but 1400nm???? I know, Domino doesn't have to get a new type to fly that bloody route, and may just reconfigure that 734 to 140-150 seats and be marginally legal. But is it really profitable? What's the point?? Because I don't get it...  ???  ???  ???  ???


Offline RushmoreAir

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Re: Destructive behaviour ???
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2010, 02:37:52 AM »
Sometimes I order too many new aircraft than my base can support, and I have to run them on low-supply routes like this until the 5-7 year leases are up, to minimize losses.

Offline swiftus27

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Re: Destructive behaviour ???
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2010, 01:08:01 PM »
Rushmore, that's against the 200% rule.

ucfknightryan

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Re: Destructive behaviour ???
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2010, 02:23:55 PM »
Rushmore, that's against the 200% rule.

swiftus, nothing on the demand graph in this thread violates the 200% rule.  It may make no sense from a financial perspective, but Domino would need to supply at least 50 more seats a day to hit 200% of demand.

Offline swiftus27

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Re: Destructive behaviour ???
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2010, 02:26:41 PM »
swiftus, nothing on the demand graph in this thread violates the 200% rule.  It may make no sense from a financial perspective, but Domino would need to supply at least 50 more seats a day to hit 200% of demand.

Absolutely it does.

There are two flights per day.  One is a 737classic and the other is a CRJ 200.
Demand is 63 pax per day. 
The CRJ has 52 pax.
Total number of seats flown is 231

231 - 52 = 179.    Therefore, the 737 classic is flying 179 seats on a route with 63 demand.   That is 284% of demand.

ucfknightryan

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Re: Destructive behaviour ???
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2010, 02:28:30 PM »
Absolutely it does.

There are two flights per day.  One is a 737classic and the other is a CRJ 200.
Demand is 63 pax per day. 
The CRJ has 52 pax.
Total number of seats flown is 231

231 - 52 = 179.    Therefore, the 737 classic is flying 179 seats on a route with 63 demand.   That is 284% of demand.


<facepalm> I really shouldn't do math when tired.  Apologies swiftus I can't even figure out what I did a few minutes ago to come to that conclusion

Offline swiftus27

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Re: Destructive behaviour ???
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2010, 02:32:49 PM »
I'm right there with you too.  No worries.

Offline RushmoreAir

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Re: Destructive behaviour ???
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2010, 03:26:06 PM »
Rushmore, that's against the 200% rule.

I always make sure that it's never more than 210%.  :-[

And, I only do it on routes that no one could possibly compete.  For example, in AC, I'm flying a 735 from Las Palmas to JFK.  Now, I'm hovering right around 200% of demand, but who would be crazy enough (other than me) to run a half-full BABY 737 from NY to the Canary Islands.

Another example from my MT2 airline is the little routes I serve with my DH8s.  I sometimes oversupply the domestic routes by as much as 400%.  But since I'm the only airline in Bolivia, I'm the only one who has the possibility to fly those routes.

A third example is GCLP to Minsk, Belarus in AC.  I have a 735 running just at 200% of demand, but no one is based in Belarus, and I am the only one in Las Palmas.  So no one cares.

But I would never oversupply a Dublin route in AC, for example.  And I don't (with the possible exception of Halifax, but that's unprofitable for me, anyway.)

 

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