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Author Topic: anyone to make money on 767-s?  (Read 2544 times)

Offline Andriy

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anyone to make money on 767-s?
« on: September 04, 2010, 06:38:26 PM »
I continuously struggle to make 767-s to generate any meaningful profit... anyone around with better experience?
I run three 767-200ER with good load factors and they hardly make $100k weekly profit, while my 757-s generate on average $500k
767 consumes more fuel, pilots need to be paid more, maintenance is more expensive, lease is higher, seems like it requires more "other" personnel (like ground services, etc) - and all that just for 8 more pax in standard configuration... Yes, it gives you range but I can also achieve the same on 757 with a stopover - which does not seem to be hurting the load factor.
Whats the point in 767? How to make it work?:)

Online JumboShrimp

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Re: anyone to make money on 767-s?
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2010, 04:12:46 AM »
You can make good profits with 300ER and especially 400ER.  I have a ton of 400ERs in ATB and they make generally >$500k leased, > $1M owned.  200ERs seem a little more difficult.

coopdogyo

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Re: anyone to make money on 767-s?
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2010, 10:14:34 PM »
The 200ER is really only good when it is first launched after that it is pretty much all about the -300ER and the -400ER.

Offline raptorva

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Re: anyone to make money on 767-s?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2010, 01:25:09 AM »
I'm making great profits with my 767-200ER's with some up to 800,000 a week. They fit my routes perfectly as I need the range but not so much the capacity of larger stretched models.

Offline RushmoreAir

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Re: anyone to make money on 767-s?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2010, 04:02:09 AM »
I make money on 762s, 763s, 763ERs, but not 762ERs.  Those are the one variant that don't make money.

Offline Andriy

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Re: anyone to make money on 767-s?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2010, 05:11:41 PM »
I'm making great profits with my 767-200ER's with some up to 800,000 a week. They fit my routes perfectly as I need the range but not so much the capacity of larger stretched models.

How do you price your routes? Do you go premium to standard pricing?

Offline raptorva

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Re: anyone to make money on 767-s?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 01:51:48 AM »
my pricings are all standed pricing though granted I have no competitors on most routes.
Their schedules are also packed as tightly as I could make them

Offline TFC1

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Re: anyone to make money on 767-s?
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2010, 11:12:22 AM »
I also make money with my 767-200ERs, as much as $900k per week (I own them). 7-day rotational schedule does the trick. Pack in as many routes as possible, but make sure turn-around times are no less than 125 minutes, and you'll be fine.  :)

CX257

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Re: anyone to make money on 767-s?
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2010, 01:25:43 PM »
Well i can get a pretty well profits on 763ERs, especially those where u are yet able to apply some larger aircraft such as A330, A340s or MD11s ... etc.
However, if u can apply the routes with proper demands, 764ER can generate a even more feasible income. I am now trying to see how they will do on some stop-over tech. stop ultralong haul routes.  ;)

Online JumboShrimp

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Re: anyone to make money on 767-s?
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2010, 05:21:40 PM »
However, if u can apply the routes with proper demands, 764ER can generate a even more feasible income. I am now trying to see how they will do on some stop-over tech. stop ultralong haul routes.  ;)

I have some 764ER with stopover, and they are doing well.  But the LFs rise very slowly on these ultra LH routes.  Be prepared to lose some money until RI is high enough.

Offline type45

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Re: anyone to make money on 767-s?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2010, 07:22:21 PM »
764ER with stopover works in TMT1 when I based at SAEZ, but under new system I'm not sure it works or not now

Online JumboShrimp

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Re: anyone to make money on 767-s?
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2010, 07:46:08 PM »
764ER with stopover works in TMT1 when I based at SAEZ, but under new system I'm not sure it works or not now

Starting from the US, I found Tahiti and Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, UUS (UHSS), Russia to be good refueling stops for 747-400ER.  But the year I am playing in (2018), with fuel prices > $1100, 767-200ER is really obsolete, it is nearly impossible to make money with them flying > 4000nm.  767-300ER is a little better...

767-400ER is great for busy routes without competition.

Offline Bralo20

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Re: anyone to make money on 767-s?
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2010, 12:30:08 PM »
I'm currently using a single leased 762ER (in addition to 4 A320's) to run on 2 routes (1 route 6x weekly, 1 route once a week) and it generates about 400k profit so it's possible to run a 762ER with a "decent" profit ;)

Online JumboShrimp

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Re: anyone to make money on 767-s?
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2010, 12:03:30 AM »
I'm currently using a single leased 762ER (in addition to 4 A320's) to run on 2 routes (1 route 6x weekly, 1 route once a week) and it generates about 400k profit so it's possible to run a 762ER with a "decent" profit ;)

In ATB, with fuel prices at ~1250, 767-200ER is really tough around the 6000nm range....  After the lease payment, I can just about break even.  The once I own do make "profit" equivalent to what lease payments would have been.

The others 300, 300ER, 400ER still do fine in game year 2018.

 

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