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Offline JonesyUK

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2010, 09:31:03 PM »
So in the end, those few with transatlantic flights win and everyone else loses.  Im on the ropes.

I think it's because of the high competition for domestic routes, as there's less competition on LH, you can afford to use profits from there to subsidise short haul routes with high competition

Hachiko

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2010, 06:47:51 PM »
That wasnt true when I was based at DFW. Worldlink attacked all over Europe to Dallas LHs.
But HyperionAir manages well. I started with LHs and did bankruptcy during competition.
Kim.

Offline Sigma

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2010, 11:55:54 PM »
That wasnt true when I was based at DFW. Worldlink attacked all over Europe to Dallas LHs.
But HyperionAir manages well. I started with LHs and did bankruptcy during competition.
Kim.

If WorldLink and I hadn't hit your LH at the same time, it'd be a different story in DFW right now, that's for sure.  You were blowing me away in profits for quite some time, that LHR route was making you a fortune, I had to do something about it.  Normally I don't touch international out of DFW, I leave it completely alone; not even Mexico.  And I was going to do the same this game too, but when you started using those profits off Heathrow and Madrid in particular to buy planes and hit my domestic routes, I knew it was a "kill or be killed" situation and I had to bring the fight to you by slowing your growth down just enough for those 4mo lease payments to catch up to you.  I've still got 14 of those A310s I hate to operate to show for it too, and I really should consider dumping them in this fuel environment but I'm too proud to cancel a route -- not to mention I'd never get the slots back in most of those airports if I ever wanted them again.  

If it had been just me, I don't think I'd have been able to stop you, I got lucky that various other WorldLink members in Europe went after the DFW routes too.  That and the other DFW airlines weren't coming after me -- in fact they'd run whenever I put demand on their routes.  So I always had a nice domestic 'subsidy' to fall back on with so many uncontested dense domestic routes.

Hachiko

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2010, 08:01:14 AM »
If WorldLink and I hadn't hit your LH at the same time, it'd be a different story in DFW right now, that's for sure.  Etc...
"Likes your comment"   ;)
Kim.
PS. Its a battle/death match in the next game world?

Offline T8KE0FF

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2010, 04:48:32 PM »
There's a HUGE fuel spike.  Fuel had been hovering at $200, and has now jumped to $500.  Lots of airlines are b'rupting.

Ouch :o

Any screen shots?

ucfknightryan

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2010, 04:16:00 AM »
I'm sitting here board browsing the stats in game and figured I'd post some here.

First, here are the most popular aircraft models:
Rank:Model:Number In Service:
1A320-200
784
2F100
735
3MD-90-30
606
4B757-200
578
5B737-400
574
6B737-800
522
7Saab 2000
453
8A330-300
365
9Bombardier Dash 8-Q400
359
10ATR 72-200
299

The fight for frequency definitely shows its influence on aircraft choice here with the F100, ATR 72-200, Q400, and Saab 2000 all finding places in the top 10.  The A330 apparently is the aircraft of choice for those at slot limited airports with long-haul demand as it's the only widebody aircraft on the list.  

Here are the most popular aircraft families:
Rank:Model:Number In Service:
1A320
1401
2B737 Classic
932
3MD-80
897
4F100/70
778
5B757
752
6B737 NextGen
716
7MD-90
670
8ATR 42/72
534
9Saab 2000
453
10A330
397
Even when expanded to the fleet group level, the A330 is the only widebody aircraft on the list.  I'm using A330 instead of A330/340 since there are only 4 A340s in the entire game  :laugh:.  The jets at least do a bit better against the props at the fleet group level, with jets holding the first 7 places, but two of the modern turboprop families still make the cut.

Next, here are aircraft models with the highest number of orders:
Rank:Model:Number In Service:
1Bombardier Dash 8-Q400
485
2A320-200
360
3A321-200
227
4B737-800
187
5A319-100
150
6MD-90-30
137
7B737-900
108
8B737-600
94
9B737-700
92
10B737-400
72

Interestingly there seems to be lower demand for turboprops going forward, with only the Q400 maintaining a strong order book, though it does have more orders than any jet.  Also, while there are an amazing number of F100s in the game, apparently interest in adding yet more is beginning to wain a bit, as the type doesn't even make the top 10 for orders.

And finally, orders by family:
Rank:Model:Number In Service:
1A320
797
2Bombardier Dash 8-Q400
485
3B737 NextGen
481
4MD-90
203
5B737 Classic
173
6Embraer EJet
54
7B757
50
8Antonov An-140
50
9F100
37
10CRJ
36

Even when you combine all the fleet groups, the Q400 has more orders than anything except the A320 series.  A few new faces do show up on this list though.  There are some orders in for the EJets, the CRJ series, and for a Ukrainian turboprop, the An-140 :o.  Orders for the classic 737s appear to be tapering off a bit, probably because they are now fairly common on the used market.

Edit: The F100/70 family was accidentally omitted from the second table, fixed
« Last Edit: September 26, 2010, 04:24:48 AM by ucfknightryan »

Offline Sigma

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2010, 04:20:00 AM »
Great stats, but somehow you missed the F70/F100 family on the list of Most popular aircraft families.  With 735 x F100s in service alone plus some more F70s, it should be #4 on the list.

ucfknightryan

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2010, 04:21:00 AM »
Great stats, but somehow you missed the F70/F100 family on the list of Most popular aircraft families.  With 735 x F100s in service alone plus some more F70s, it should be #4 on the list.

<facepalm> How'd I manage that, I even added the F100 and F70 together on my list.  Fixing it now.

ucfknightryan

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2010, 04:31:06 AM »
Great stats, but somehow you missed the F70/F100 family on the list of Most popular aircraft families.  With 735 x F100s in service alone plus some more F70s, it should be #4 on the list.

Interesting random stat on the F100, you and I between us have more than 1 out of every 5 of them.  And jetxpress and myself have almost 1 out of every 3 B757s between us.  So some of these aircraft types are making the list from a small number of people showing them lots of love  :laugh:

Offline Sigma

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« Reply #49 on: September 26, 2010, 04:52:01 AM »
Interesting random stat on the F100, you and I between us have more than 1 out of every 5 of them.  And jetxpress and myself have almost 1 out of every 3 B757s between us.  So some of these aircraft types are making the list from a small number of people showing them lots of love  :laugh:

I'd have a lot more of the F100s if not for the fuel spike.  It put the kibosh on a lot of my lease replacements as I didn't want to run down my cash and I slowed my route expansions as well as they really weren't adding much to my profitability with the high salary costs I'm paying to run my bases.  

50% of all the A300/310 family is mine, almost 100% of the A310s in service and and almost 100% of all the older non-600 models are mine (that's not a good thing as they are getting pretty old).

The other interesting thing is that, barring just a handful of units totalling about 2% of production, the entire A300/310 family is almost exclusively operated by the SkyNet Alliance.  Desert Storm Air and Acka Airlines are the other operators.  So either you love the plane and have a bunch, like the 3 of us, are you don't operate it at all.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2010, 04:59:47 AM by Sigma »

Offline Daveos

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #50 on: September 26, 2010, 03:35:11 PM »
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Offline Sami

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2010, 08:55:11 PM »
whoa, that's a lot of negatives ... maybe I should change it a bit as idea was that most alliances have + scores, or not at least nearly -1000 (!!).

Offline JumboShrimp

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« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2010, 09:13:34 PM »
whoa, that's a lot of negatives ... maybe I should change it a bit as idea was that most alliances have + scores, or not at least nearly -1000 (!!).

I suggested in another thread to award +1 point per airline per month rather than per year.  Or reduce the penalties.  One airline in a tailspin can "earn" 100 negative points...

Offline PH1517

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #53 on: September 27, 2010, 03:40:40 AM »
whoa, that's a lot of negatives ... maybe I should change it a bit as idea was that most alliances have + scores, or not at least nearly -1000 (!!).

Thanks for noticing Sami! With that point system we certainly look like a whole bunch of losers !! :laugh: ok... exc. Wordlink ... but who know even they could also end up with us  ;)

Offline Brockster

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #54 on: September 27, 2010, 06:28:05 AM »
whoa, that's a lot of negatives ... maybe I should change it a bit as idea was that most alliances have + scores, or not at least nearly -1000 (!!).

It's the same problem, if not worse, in the other scenarios too. In ATB specifically, WorldLink has been the number one alliance pretty much since the alliance score was introduced and now a small start up alliance is about to beat us in scoring simply because they don't have the impact of the whole game and BKs from tens of airlines. Something needs to change because that's a bit frustrating and not indicative of which alliance did the best for the majority of the game.

Offline Daveos

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #55 on: September 27, 2010, 08:13:07 PM »
For those interested, here is a graphical representation of the scores over the length of the world so far:


Offline swiftus27

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2010, 08:48:22 PM »
and now that we are down to 100 peeps, there won't be as many bankruptcies.

Offline RushmoreAir

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #57 on: September 28, 2010, 01:13:28 PM »
For those interested, here is a graphical representation of the scores over the length of the world so far:



I think excel graphs are SO cool.  Just learned to make them last week.

Offline RushmoreAir

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #58 on: October 06, 2010, 03:00:26 PM »
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It's looking pretty bad with only 88 players.

Offline Daveos

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Re: Observer Thread
« Reply #59 on: October 09, 2010, 10:46:07 AM »
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