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Author Topic: 737C vs. 737NG  (Read 1779 times)

Offline Frogiton

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737C vs. 737NG
« on: July 01, 2010, 08:41:58 PM »
What's the point of buying a NG 737 over a 737 Classic. In reality it would be the cockpit, which is a pretty big factor. But besides speed, I see no logical reason to spend 20M more and wait a few years longer to get the same plane basically.
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Offline [ATA] Sunbao

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Re: 737C vs. 737NG
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2010, 09:36:08 PM »
What's the point of buying a NG 737 over a 737 Classic. In reality it would be the cockpit, which is a pretty big factor. But besides speed, I see no logical reason to spend 20M more and wait a few years longer to get the same plane basically.

I got to the same result and therfore i ordered 737 classic

Offline CUR$E - God of AirwaySim

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Re: 737C vs. 737NG
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2010, 03:09:49 PM »
- You get a much bigger aircraft for that 20 Million Dollar more (I think you compare 737-400 with 737-900ER?)
- NG uses less fuel and are cheaper in maintenance things
- NG can fly more far
- NG offer a bigger pax capacity (-600 to -900ER)

Offline Frogiton

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Re: 737C vs. 737NG
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2010, 04:53:21 PM »
- You get a much bigger aircraft for that 20 Million Dollar more (I think you compare 737-400 with 737-900ER?)

No, 737-400 compares with 737-800 (same size) 737-300 compares with 737-700 (same size) and 737-500 with 737-600 (same size).

- NG uses less fuel and are cheaper in maintenance things

Fuel is insignificant compared to the 20 million dollar difference, maintenance is virtually the same.

- NG can fly more far

That doesn't make a difference to me in the America domestic market.

- NG offer a bigger pax capacity (-600 to -900ER)

Already explaned.
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Offline [ATA] Sunbao

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Re: 737C vs. 737NG
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2010, 05:47:46 PM »
Infact the 737-300 use less fuel than 737-700

ksliu9

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Re: 737C vs. 737NG
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2010, 05:49:43 PM »
What's the point of buying a NG 737 over a 737 Classic. In reality it would be the cockpit, which is a pretty big factor. But besides speed, I see no logical reason to spend 20M more and wait a few years longer to get the same plane basically.

I think when the time comes for the fuel is about USD1000, you will find out the significant difference of the 10% less fuel consumption.  Besides, I can say, all other differences are not significant enough for the 20M more, unless you need the 3000 - 3400 nm range. Or, when the -700ER comes, the range will become another significant difference ( -700ER has a range of 4400 nm).

Actually I'm still waiting and waiting and waiting for the -700ER to come!!!

ksliu9

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Re: 737C vs. 737NG
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2010, 05:51:08 PM »
Infact the 737-300 use less fuel than 737-700

-700 is useless if you don't choose the 3400nm range version (and of course, use them to fly those 3000+ range routes)!!!

Offline CUR$E - God of AirwaySim

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Re: 737C vs. 737NG
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2010, 07:03:33 PM »
No, 737-400 compares with 737-800 (same size) 737-300 compares with 737-700 (same size) and 737-500 with 737-600 (same size).

I'm talking about the price difference.

B737-400 49.99m - 62.65m USD
B737-800 67.28m - 75.68m USD
B737-900ER 78.04m - 87.51m USD

So you compare -400 with -800, ok. Next time please be more detailed in such things :)

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Fuel is insignificant compared to the 20 million dollar difference, maintenance is virtually the same.

No, 20 Million Dollar are (in my opinion) not this much. If you order an aircraft like the B737 you will use them till the end of the game, 20 years. But ok, I'm sure for some airlines 20 Million Dollar are much money, but than they don't have to decide which B737 they should by. In fact I'd use MD-80 or MD-90 over B737classic in this scenario and US domestic market.

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That doesn't make a difference to me in the America domestic market.

You can use your B737NG to fly to Europe or South America and the bigger range is a pro argument. Next time please be more specific where are you based etc. if this is important for the question.

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Already explaned.

No. The B737-900 and B737-900ER have no equivalent in the B737classic series, so (for me) it's a very big point on the positive side.

Offline Frogiton

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Re: 737C vs. 737NG
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2010, 07:19:07 PM »
I think the difference in our opinions includes our destination and airline size. Previously in ATB you ran a very big airline in LAX, you probably had a bunch of money. If I had a bunch of money, you bet I'd buy NG's... but unfortuantly I'm not exactly basking in money  :-[. I don't run a small airline by any means but in my situation the 737C is more cost effective, cause I can get it soon compared to the long wait of the NG. Also, in my airline I have absolutely no need for anything under 200 pax that goes farther than 1500nm. So apparently it just depends on your airline on which is a better choice.  :)
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Offline CUR$E - God of AirwaySim

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Re: 737C vs. 737NG
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2010, 07:24:17 PM »
In this case I would take Dash8-Q400 or something like this.

Also don't get me wrong. In the first moment 20 Million Dollar are a lot of money, but as I said you will use the aircraft over 20 years. So maybe first lease it and than buy it ;)


However, the B737classic is no bad aircraft, I often use them both (also B737-200Adv) until I get enough of the newer variant :)


Another pro of "older" aircraft; they are easier to get on the used market. So if you plan to get as fast as possible as many aircraft of a specific type in ATB, I'd always recommend the B737classic.


Ansettaddict123

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Re: 737C vs. 737NG
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2010, 10:42:28 AM »
I had much the same problem.
for me the biggest sticking point is the waiting times for the NG, it just made much more sense to get the classics.
Fuel burn isnt that much higher with the right engine, and leases are a whole lot cheaper! Plus i dont have to wait 5 years to get my first aircraft:)

 

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