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Author Topic: 20-30 seat planes.  (Read 1173 times)

myoung8800

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20-30 seat planes.
« on: June 27, 2010, 08:55:09 PM »
Any advice on which a/c to put and a route with 50-80 pax demand, and still make a profit?

Offline JumboShrimp

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Re: 20-30 seat planes.
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2010, 09:25:32 PM »
Some of the turboprops may be worth looking at: ATR, Dash 8, Saab.

Offline swiftus27

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Re: 20-30 seat planes.
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2010, 10:23:12 PM »
confused, are you using 20-30pax planes or larger ones like 50-60?

Dash 8s are about the best things out there for routes under about 400nm. 

myoung8800

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Re: 20-30 seat planes.
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2010, 10:36:42 PM »
I'm using saab 2000, but i want to run to smaller cities 80 pax per day multiple times the saab will put too many empty seats.  I need a 20 to 30 seat plane to do this.

Offline Maarten Otto

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Re: 20-30 seat planes.
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2010, 07:17:08 AM »
If you already have some Saab's you better fly 2 times with the Saab half empty then having 1 or 2 small AC's flying at 80% capacity. That's what's called fleet commonality.

Offline swiftus27

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Re: 20-30 seat planes.
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2010, 10:18:49 AM »
If you already have some Saab's you better fly 2 times with the Saab half empty then having 1 or 2 small AC's flying at 80% capacity. That's what's called fleet commonality.

if you have 80 demand, 2x saab 200s will be fine.

Perhaps you want to consider putting more comfortable seating?

unsaid

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Re: 20-30 seat planes.
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2010, 10:48:07 AM »
hold on. swiftus, you confused me. why would he consider putting more confortable seating in a route less than 400 nm or even 100 nm? is it worth it? What I do is, to put dense seats for all routes under 1000 nm. isn't that right? for example I do 64 y +4 C all dense for my atr72-500s.

Offline Maarten Otto

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Re: 20-30 seat planes.
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2010, 11:03:14 AM »
HD seating can be done for flights no longer then 1:55 hours

unsaid

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Re: 20-30 seat planes.
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2010, 11:14:18 AM »
ok, for flights longer than 2 hours, do you get low seating factors or your CI drops?

Offline Maarten Otto

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Re: 20-30 seat planes.
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 11:24:51 PM »
1- yes
2- no... that one depends on marketing

Offline swiftus27

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Re: 20-30 seat planes.
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2010, 12:13:32 AM »
I seem to always find that losing 8 seats (i think thats what it is) by going from an HD to standard setup is always worth it.  Your RI is maxxed, you are always going to have better seating (and thus, higher LFs) than your competition.  I find it worth it.    AND.... on some of those turboprops, losing a few seats REALLY extends the plane's range (look at the NAMC's, their range jumps HUNDREDS of NMs just by ditching a few seats).

 

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