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Author Topic: Short Distance High Capacity Routes  (Read 1449 times)

Offline Wing Commander Chad Studdington

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Short Distance High Capacity Routes
« on: April 29, 2010, 02:48:52 PM »
An early question about these types of routes.

Where you have routes like the ones between European capitals that have a very high demand on a route that may only be a few hundred NM is there any advantage to either flying lots of times a day with smaller a/c (737s, A320s and the like) or fewer flights with higher capacity aircraft (767s, A330s and things)?

DenisG

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Re: Short Distance High Capacity Routes
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2010, 02:53:55 PM »
Higher frequency will help to gain an edge over competitors. Smaller planes are preferred by pax. Flying the category of an A300 can still be very viable on those routes. I would recommend never to fly A330s or B767s on these routes, due to the much longer turn-around times and cost structures. We just had that problem with a fellow in MT2, flying short hauls with B767-300. A nightmare...

Denis

Offline swiftus27

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Re: Short Distance High Capacity Routes
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2010, 02:58:34 PM »
The only reason the 744D / 747sr ever existed was due to the lack of slots in Haneda.  People still wanted to fly but the airport couldn't support any more planes.... so, Boeing made some cattle cars for them.

Online NorgeFly

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Re: Short Distance High Capacity Routes
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2010, 03:02:10 PM »
The A321 is a good compromise for those short, high demand routes. Good capacity, short turnarounds and commonality with the A319/320 etc.

DenisG

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Re: Short Distance High Capacity Routes
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2010, 04:47:17 PM »
The only reason the 744D / 747sr ever existed was due to the lack of slots in Haneda.  People still wanted to fly but the airport couldn't support any more planes.... so, Boeing made some cattle cars for them.

Now it's Airbus building some cattle cars... A380s in mind...
 ;)

Denis

Offline swiftus27

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Re: Short Distance High Capacity Routes
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2010, 04:51:27 PM »
Now it's Airbus building some cattle cars... A380s in mind...
 ;)

Denis

While you are correct, the A380 is not a short range A/C.

Offline Wing Commander Chad Studdington

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Re: Short Distance High Capacity Routes
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2010, 05:11:06 PM »
Now the A380 has been brought up. I've read somewhere they might make good a/c for no frills long haul. Would they, both in reality and in AWS if they were fitted with one class?

DenisG

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Re: Short Distance High Capacity Routes
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2010, 05:20:47 PM »
Now the A380 has been brought up. I've read somewhere they might make good a/c for no frills long haul. Would they, both in reality and in AWS if they were fitted with one class?

Wow, difficult to say... theoretically yes, and Airbus was aware of that during design and construction. However, so far, I have heard only of few careful attempts to try this out. As no-frills contributed greatly to the air traffic boom by developing a new customer segment; this would also have to be done on long-hauls. But that is a good discussion for a nice evening, no chicks, and some beer - unfortunately, today is football EuroLeague semi-finals...

Denis

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Re: Short Distance High Capacity Routes
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2010, 06:15:46 PM »
Wow, difficult to say... theoretically yes, and Airbus was aware of that during design and construction. However, so far, I have heard only of few careful attempts to try this out. As no-frills contributed greatly to the air traffic boom by developing a new customer segment; this would also have to be done on long-hauls. But that is a good discussion for a nice evening, no chicks, and some beer - unfortunately, today is football EuroLeague semi-finals...

Denis

thread hijack? 

And aggregate games are stupid, sorry Europe... it is just dumb.  Just play a best of 3 series.

DenisG

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Re: Short Distance High Capacity Routes
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2010, 06:25:11 PM »
thread hijack? 

And aggregate games are stupid, sorry Europe... it is just dumb.  Just play a best of 3 series.

 ;D ;D ;D


 

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