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Author Topic: fuel crisis  (Read 3092 times)

Thomash

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fuel crisis
« on: August 25, 2009, 07:19:39 PM »
so this game follows the historical fuel prices but i'm not really good in history. So in which year does the fuel crisis really starts?

Filippo

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Re: fuel crisis
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2009, 08:28:56 PM »
The game says that there will be "rough" times in 1979 - 1985: so the last years of the game will have a fuel crisis.

Also, I heard some people that were around during the jet age period and they said that in 1972/3/4 there is also a spike, but I am not sure on this. Wikipedia talks about a 1973 fuel embargo on the US due to it supporting israel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis.

Anyway, look out for the big one due in 1979.

I wonder what happens in that crisis since it's the first time I participate in a Jet Age game

Offline Dasha

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Re: fuel crisis
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2009, 09:01:56 PM »
Well since I don't want to start a new topic....

does anybody know when and if there will be a major growth in passenger demands?
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Offline type45

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Re: fuel crisis
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2009, 09:14:45 PM »
I've been in JA2 since 1974, I can tell you that it will be really hard. You should still be able to stay in the game after 1972 crisis. But the one started at 1979 can be a real killing zone......compare to the price now, the price at that time is really out of your imagination ;)

In JA2 we can have 5 years of "happen hours" after the crisis until 1990 another high price arrived, but in JA3 that's will be something out of the game, the only advantage is that you can have a try to handle price problem at 72-74, before something big enough to kill you happened at 79......

Actually I think JA2 is easier than JA3. The starting day is just the right time(~4 years to go before the crisis really hit everybody), more modern planes are available to use and the fuel price is acceptable until 78, also the ticket price is much higher than 1970. I even think JA2 is easier than ATB/ATB2 if we consider the competition in the world. It is normal to have only 1 or 2 airline in 1 major airport, this will be much easier for new comers to start up, although they may have to do some research before ordering planes ;)
« Last Edit: August 25, 2009, 09:17:28 PM by type45 »

Talentz

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Re: fuel crisis
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2009, 09:29:58 PM »
The first Jet Age, during beta, started in 1965. By 1972, fuel was making 707s and DC-8s worthless. Even 747s were tough to turn a profit in.

I remember my growth was fueled by 707s during the late 60s. After 1972, out of 42 aircraft, only 5 were turning a profit.. Was really a turn around.


I hope the same holds true this game. Since I am prepared for it  8)



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Offline ekaneti

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Re: fuel crisis
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2009, 12:29:10 AM »
First fuel crisis and recession that followed was 1973 until 1975. This made CV880s and CV990s worthless. 707s/DC-8s were still ok until the 1979 fuel risis.

Offline Seattle

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Re: fuel crisis
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2009, 03:25:18 AM »
Then what is good to use on longhual? 747? DC-10? or VC-10?
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Offline Dasha

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Re: fuel crisis
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2009, 01:30:52 PM »
OMG... I thought this game followed 'imaginary' prices too....

I just ordered two Tupolev 144's and an Ilyushin 62M..

ouch.. I'm so going to die... :(
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Filippo

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Re: fuel crisis
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2009, 03:06:43 PM »
I ordered lately planes with 7 year lease periods, but since they are all delivered around 1972, When the 1979 fuel bump comes i can decide to renovate their lease or send them out at a low price. I just realised a couple od days ago! ;D

castelino009

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Re: fuel crisis
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2009, 03:00:27 AM »
OMG... I thought this game followed 'imaginary' prices too....

I just ordered two Tupolev 144's and an Ilyushin 62M..

ouch.. I'm so going to die... :(

yes huny you will, not a slow one but INSTANT by the looks of it (TU-144) lol. Its always wise to listen to someone :)

Good luck.

V

Offline ekaneti

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Re: fuel crisis
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2009, 11:35:22 AM »
OMG... I thought this game followed 'imaginary' prices too....

I just ordered two Tupolev 144's and an Ilyushin 62M..

ouch.. I'm so going to die... :(

Cancel the order if you can

Dorito_25

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Re: fuel crisis
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2009, 11:28:07 AM »
From the history that I researched - prices started to rise in 1977 - they went to about $70 - $90? But the years afterwards - forget about it...they are almost triple! Try your best to change your fleet before then - but the 1977 slight fuel rise is from real life (average of the year), but who knows what to expect AirwaySim...I just say good luck and stay away from Russian aircraft - sorry Dasha!! (I used the Ilyushin 62M as international...out of australia - with their low pax and high fuel usage...well I don't need to say anything else   :laugh:)

 

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