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Author Topic: Maintenance department  (Read 2351 times)

Offline jmi

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Maintenance department
« on: September 30, 2007, 11:57:53 AM »
About maintenance. This could be almost own part on menus.

First, maintenance should be much more complex (including spare planes discussed in other thread). Also you should be able to create own maintenance department. Or buy maintenance services from other company (not meaning other airline, but thrid party company).

For smaller companies it would be easier and perhaps cheaper to use external maintenance company. But when you have lots of planes, building own maintenance should be more efficient. And of course, creating Maintenance department will cost some money. And depending how much people is handling planes it will be more costly. Will get to this in a minute.

Also. About scheduling maintenances. You should have similar scheduling for maintenance that you have with routes. It is easy to understand and easy to adjust when planes have maintenance slots And when you need more people to handle all maintenances.

- So, you would have in start one line what makes A-checks. And own schedule for that. This should be weekly based as every plane is checked once in week.
- Also you should have another schedule for B-checks. And this should be montly based (or four weeks, as this is B-check interval). You can select specific date when plane is put thru B-check.
- When all of you slots are full, you need to create another line what makes checks. A or B, whatever is full...
- Also similar system for C and D-checks. But perhaps without scheduling. But you cant put plane to C or D check if you don't have enough people to do that. Or you can send plane to external company to do these checks.

This just for start ;)

- J
« Last Edit: February 15, 2011, 11:09:11 AM by sami »

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Re: [lst] Maintenance department
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2007, 10:14:52 PM »
This is already in my "wish list".. meaning that it's a complex thing but would like to make it.

Same goes for the ground handling systems that would be also implemented the same way that there are computer firms and you can set up your own ones too.

But before this can be built, the calculation system must be updated and the personnell dept must be completed so that player can manage all staffing and salaries from there.

Plus in my mind it would be important that players can buy the services from other players too, not just from their own subcompanies and computer companies.

FCNekke

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Re: [lst] Maintenance department
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2007, 12:26:02 PM »
About maintenance. This could be almost own part on menus.

First, maintenance should be much more complex (including spare planes discussed in other thread). Also you should be able to create own maintenance department. Or buy maintenance services from other company (not meaning other airline, but thrid party company).

For smaller companies it would be easier and perhaps cheaper to use external maintenance company. But when you have lots of planes, building own maintenance should be more efficient. And of course, creating Maintenance department will cost some money. And depending how much people is handling planes it will be more costly. Will get to this in a minute.

Also. About scheduling maintenances. You should have similar scheduling for maintenance that you have with routes. It is easy to understand and easy to adjust when planes have maintenance slots And when you need more people to handle all maintenances.

- So, you would have in start one line what makes A-checks. And own schedule for that. This should be weekly based as every plane is checked once in week.
- Also you should have another schedule for B-checks. And this should be montly based (or four weeks, as this is B-check interval). You can select specific date when plane is put thru B-check.
- When all of you slots are full, you need to create another line what makes checks. A or B, whatever is full...
- Also similar system for C and D-checks. But perhaps without scheduling. But you cant put plane to C or D check if you don't have enough people to do that. Or you can send plane to external company to do these checks.

This just for start ;)

- J

Actually it is cheaper for having an own technical department for any airline, big or small. But when it comes to heavy maintenance (C-checks) it is cheaper for small companies to get them done in another company. But every airline should have their own Line Maintenance base. Contractors (technicians  from other company) cost douple as much as and technician in youre own company.

And maintence checks could be done like this: Daily Check (daily)
                                                               Service check or Line check (every 48 hours)
                                                               Weekly check (every week)
                                                               A-check (every month)
                                                               C-Check (Every year)

And of course you should simulate Unscheduled maintenance i.e if a plane brakes down. And it would be good to have an option to make maintenance agreements with other companies for unscheduled maintence if an airplane brakes down in another airport than you base.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2007, 12:32:00 PM by FCNekke »

Offline jmi

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Re: [lst] Maintenance department
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2007, 12:37:19 PM »

Current maintenance goes this way:
A-check every day
B-check once in month
C-check once in year
D-check every 8 years

It is not so realistic as in real life. There is also hour limitations and things like that. But it is realistic enough for game.

And you should have options to give all maintenance models to external company, or do them with own people. And mix them as well. For example do A and B check by own people and C and D is done by external contractor. It is up to player how he/she wants to lead company.

- J


FCNekke

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Re: [lst] Maintenance department
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2007, 12:43:00 PM »
Current maintenance goes this way:
A-check every day       
B-check once in month
C-check once in year
D-check every 8 years

It is not so realistic as in real life. There is also hour limitations and things like that. But it is realistic enough for game.

And you should have options to give all maintenance models to external company, or do them with own people. And mix them as well. For example do A and B check by own people and C and D is done by external contractor. It is up to player how he/she wants to lead company.

- J


And when done by another company you have to fly the airplane to another airport to do the maintenance? If the maintence company is in another city?

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Re: [lst] Maintenance department
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2007, 01:05:01 PM »
A check is actually once a week not once a day in the game. Also in my mind the daily & service checks are so small details that they can be ignored. As it would be pain in the a.. to schedule them for all your 100 planes ;D   Any other opinions on this?

And if the maintenance base feature is done and maintenance is in another city, then the ferry flight costs will be included in the maintenance costs (talking about heavy c/d maintenance only), there's no need to make it more confusing by separating that into another selection.

Offline jmi

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Re: [lst] Maintenance department
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2007, 01:09:53 PM »
A check is actually once a week not once a day in the game.

Sorry, my mistake. Wrote that list in little hurry...

But. About those other details. That sounds like it should be.

- J

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Re: [lst] Maintenance department
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2007, 03:14:01 PM »
There should be high initial cost to build up own maintenance organization for a new aircraft type. After initial build up the maintenance costs should be fairly high for first years, but then decrease as more experience of the give type is gained.

This should make buying maintenance from other companies to a viable option.

Offline powi

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Re: [lst] Maintenance department
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2009, 05:03:13 PM »
Up!

Ideas for V2

Handle A&B checks as now.

Increase price of C&D checks if done as now. (This should be the preferable option for small fleets or airlines)

New feature: Maintenance department

Initial costs:
Buy/lease hangar (small, medium or large) (medium fits one medium or two small aircraft etc)
Buy training, documentation, spares and tools for certain fleet group. (one lump sum)

Annual costs:
Increased personnel demand
Hangar leases (if applicable)
Costs to maintain maintenance proficiency for each fleet type (bulletins, spares, training etc)

Operation:
Same type of schedule as for routes

New feature:
Maintenance market (sell/buy) C/D checks. (seller selects time, possible fleet groups and price)
One day for transit to each direction from other airports should be included together with fuel/route fees
Ability to sell only to or cheaper to own alliance.

« Last Edit: February 15, 2009, 04:09:37 PM by Powi »

gerrit aart

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Re: [lst] Maintenance department
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2009, 02:50:57 PM »
After D check has been executed, the first C check should not be earlier then in 1 year !!!

masoniclight

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Re: [lst] Maintenance department
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2009, 02:58:40 PM »
And maybe this would bring down the cost of training as mentioned in the forums, which I feel is a little silly. After a while, if you have the same planes to work on, training costs should go down until or unless you start bringing in different kind of planes and engines (I always felt that this is the bonus you should be getting with Fleet Commonality!)

Offline Sami

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Re: [lst] Maintenance department
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2009, 03:32:11 PM »
After D check has been executed, the first C check should not be earlier then in 1 year !!!

Well it isn't. D check includes a C check.

CX717

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Re: [lst] Maintenance department
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2009, 03:45:58 PM »
I hope I can schedule C/D check in the future version...
so I can survive from the C/D Check wave!

brique

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Re: Maintenance department
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2012, 04:21:37 PM »
moved from new request to here :

Search shows the topic was last addressed near on 3 yrs ago and Sami said then it was on his 'wish-list': so I would like to raise it again.

Certainly being able to pre-plan c/d-checks would help spread the burden a bit by doing some a bit earlier than they are really due : But this does require you being on-line and at the right 'game-time' to do it manually : which is a bit of a problem for the poor workers denied company PC's or without access to wi-fi/smart-phones : 3 game-weeks can pass between going to work and getting home again

Maybe a facility to 'edit' the due date, perhaps with a 'safety-net' of only allowing an earlier date entry?

 

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